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Thursday, September 22, 2005

Leslie Byrne calls Virginia Not Southern

From the St. Petersburg Times, October 30, 1989
"Southern doesn't mean what it used to," said state legislator Leslie Byrne of Fairfax County, the booming Washington, D.C., suburb that accounts for a great deal of both Virginia's population growth and the political change that accompanied it. "Southern is a climate more than it's an ideology now. (Virginia) has viewed itself as a Southern state. Demographically, it's now a mid-Atlantic state."
Am I the only one who doesn't see this quote playing well in Jarrett, Lunenburg, Gladys, Chatham, Bassett or Wise?

Update: Added a quotation mark that I accidentally deleted.

10 Comments:

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Blogger great state said...

Heck, it doesn't play well with me, and I live in Prince William! Of course, I'm a SW Va transplant (certainly the minority up here).

8:14 AM

 
Anonymous William Jackson said...

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8:42 AM

 
Blogger James Young said...

I, too, am from Prince William, and this quotation explains in part why Leslie did so poorly in the PW part of the 11th District when she ran for Congress.

9:23 AM

 
Blogger too conservative said...

Mrs. Byrne,
Not all of us in Virginia, even Northern Virginia are New York transplants.

That is why our State Song is carry me back to old Virginia, why we have one of the largest SCV organizations in the nation, why one of our two statues in the Capitol is Robert E. Lee, and why Jerry Kilgoreis going to win the election.

Leslie Byrne, Communist for Lt. Governor

3:22 PM

 
Blogger Walt Ball said...

TC: Unfortunately the liberals retired our state song and we are without one now.

Leslie, Com'mon down to my neck of the woods and say that. By the way, what is the name of that state holiday? Lee..something?

3:27 PM

 
Blogger SouthoftheJames.com said...

Virginia has alway been more about its own culture than being Southern. Just ask folks in NC, SC, MS, TN and so on. Now, with upwards of 50% of the state's population being non-Virginia born. Remember, Lee said, "save in defense of my native State, with the sincere hope that my poor services may never be needed, I hope I may never be called on to draw my sword....." He wasn't so much fighting for the South, as we was fighting for Virginia.

-- Conaway

3:55 PM

 
Blogger James Atticus Bowden said...

Conaway has it right with one caveat. Of course, Virginia always considered itself to be 'Southern' but the old expression is this,"Virginia is ABOVE the South" - double entendre (and more) intended!

Furthermore in terms of sociology and political culture there is a distinction between the Old Dominion Tidewater and The Valley and Mountains Scot-Irish cultures. James Webb does a nice job of making the distinction in his book - partly his family tales - Born Fighting - how the Scot-Irish culture is the basis of the Red States...and most of the South save Tidewater, Charleston and New Orleans.

8:07 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

since when did nova become Virginia?

1:48 AM

 

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