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Saturday, June 18, 2005

Deeds and McDonnell butt heads at YLC

Creigh Deeds and Bob McDonnell faced each other for the first time since McDonnell received the Republican nomination on Tuesday. They met at the Young Lawyer's Conference, a division of the Virginia State Bar.

From the RT-D:
Virginia's candidates for attorney general clashed over social issues and taxes Saturday during the first debate of the general election campaign for any of the six statewide candidates.
The clash included
embryonic stem cell research
Terry Schiavo
Gay marriage
the 2004 tax increase
each person's running mates

The last point is the one that is most interesting to me. Creigh Deeds is the most moderate of the three, which tells you a little about this year's Democratic ticket. Tim Kaine will be looking to use Mr. Deeds as a human shield on the gun issue. While I think the Senator from Charlottesville is enough of a team player to do that, he'll do his best not to be dragged down.
Deeds, who is perceived as the most moderate of the three Democrats, said he doesn't even agree with his wife all the time _ and the same is true with his running mates.

McDonnell said the Republicans are more ideologically in tune than the Democrats and suggested the differences between Deeds and his ticket mates are sharper than Deeds was acknowledging.

"He will run a good campaign, but he will also run hard from Tim Kaine and Leslie Byrne if he has good sense," McDonnell said.


Anonymous Waldo Jaquith said...

"The Senator from Charlottesville"? Addison, I'm surprised you haven't taken the time to learn more about Creigh Deeds.

He's from (and lives in) Bath County, on the West Virginia border. That's a three-hour drive away from Charlottesville -- a half hour longer drive than D.C., and three times the drive to Richmond. To get there, you've got to head up into the Blue Ridge, down into the Shenandoah Valley, and then up into the mountains on the border. There's just no way to confuse Bath County with Charlottesville.

10:09 PM

Blogger CR UVa said...

Hey Waldo, I'd suggest looking at Deed's bio page. Deeds may live in Bath County, but I'm sure even you can see that Addison was referring to where Senator Deed represents. Charlottesville is among the areas, of particular note since C'ville is the most urban and populated of his representation.

10:29 PM

Anonymous Waldo Jaquith said...

That's a little silly, CR. Virgil Goode represents Charlottesville, too, but it'd be patently ridiculous to call him "the Congressman from Charlottesville." I think we can all agree that districts are often large and convoluted, and the mere fact that one end of a 150-mile-long district is represented by somebody at the other end does not make them "from" there.

10:39 PM

Blogger Addison said...

I know where Bath County is - I was just there. I couldn't find anyone who knows Creigh.

It's altogether fitting to identify a legislator with the area to which he is most beholden. For example, John Chichester is called "the Gentleman from Stafford" even though he lives in Northumberland.

In 2003, Creigh Deeds received 51% of his vote tally from Albemarle-C'ville. He received 6% of his vote total from Bath County.

Creigh held his townhall on the 2004 budget in Charlottesville, not Hot Springs. He sat next to Mitch, not Jim Shuler.

When Creigh apologized to gay rights activists for voting for HB751, he did it in Charlottesville, not Bath. He was with Mitch, not Jim Shuler.

11:08 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

He was with Mitch Cumstein?

11:27 PM

Anonymous SamAm said...


"Charlottesville Democrat Creigh Deeds also has a home in Bath County"? Tell me, where else does he have a home? Is the Deeds family living at Bodo's on the Corner? Did Creigh live in the Rotunda when he was the Commonwealth's Attorney for Bath County?

Anyone think the GOP is a bit scared about the McDonnell campaign? Yeah, I agree.

1:25 PM

Anonymous Rural Not Stupid said...

I think it's ridiculous that the entire focus here is on Creigh Deed's address, but I'll play anyways.

Waldo is absolutly right, though i think he over estimates how long it takes to get to Bath, It has never taken me more than 2 and a half hours to go through Charlottesville to Bath and the Homestead.
All the times I have met Creigh Deeds, he has never mentioned a house in Charlottesville, and I know one doesn't exist. He keeps an office in C'ville not a home. It would be hard for Deeds and his family to take care of his 10 equine that he referenced at the vpap breakfast if he lived anywhere else.
I wish this blog would take a look at what happened yesterday morning. From what I read in the Times, Deed's pointed out the biggest flaw in McDonnells campaign. McDonnell was behind Creigh in all the ideas that McDonnell claims to be his. As well as how the whole ticket that McDonnell is running with, consistently opposes the legislation that law enforcement officals ask for the most, more officers and adequate pay. Deeds pointed out that McDonnells campaign keeps coming up with all these ideas for new programs that will aid law enforcement, while consistently opposing giving them the means to implement the programs.
I dont see how the McDonnell campaign can get away from that issue.
McDonnell might claim that he doesnt remember when was the last time he was guilty of sodomy, but I do, cuz from what I hear, Deeds pounded him yesterday in that debate.

3:59 PM

Anonymous Waldo Jaquith said...

Well, Addison, I look forward to you referring to Virgil Goode as "the Congressman from Charlottesville" from here on out. Likewise, I expect you to refer to Jerry Kilgore as "the candidate from Richmond," since that's where he's lived for the past, what, 7 years?

Or we could all do our readers a great favor and not fudge the truth to suit our political whims.

10:04 PM

Blogger Addison said...

Well, I haven't really talked that much about Virgil Goode, but I wouldn't be opposed to calling him the Rep. from Charlottesville. It doesn't make as much sense b/c AC/Cville is a much smaller fraction of his district, and he lost the area in 2004.

As for Jerry Kilgore, the press alternates back and forth between saying he's from Richmond and saying he's from Gate City. It doesn't really matter that much to me.

For some reason, this has touched a real nerve. I think a lot of people see Charlottesville as radioactive for a statewide candidate. I'm mulling over some different options to work into the rotation. I hope that they will take the edge off.

1) Creigh Deeds, the only State Senator with constituents in Charlottesville.
2) Creigh Deeds, 10 votes in C'ville for every one in Bath.
3) Creigh Deeds, Mitch Van Yahres' partner on issues of importance to the Piedmont.

12:03 AM

Anonymous Waldo Jaquith said...

Well, I haven't really talked that much about Virgil Goode, but I wouldn't be opposed to calling him the Rep. from Charlottesville.

Well, I can tell you, here in the Fifth it'd be laughable.

It doesn't make as much sense b/c AC/Cville is a much smaller fraction of his district, and he lost the area in 2004.

I can't imagine what his victory or loss or population percentages have to do with where he's "from." He's from where he's from, and that's Rocky Mount.

11:12 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Creigh Deeds lives in eastern Bath County four miles south of millboro springs on route 42. He does have an office in Bath County, and if someone from Bath said they didnt know him then they had probably been living under a rock since 1899.

1:20 AM


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